I saw DLSS 5 running across multiple games. It's not a face filter.

[DirtyDan]

This is hilarious levels of missing the point.

As a software developer/architect/consultant/nerd, with years and years of experience, I am not worried that AI is so competent that my job will be gone.

I am worried that some VP has their annual bonus tied to adopting AI and getting enough productivity to warrant a 40% headcount reduction... where they decide to start with headcount reduction, and expect the remaining devs to make magic happen.

I get there's a really, really subtle difference there, that may be hard for some people to perceive. The AI doesn't need to do my job to replace me. All that needs to happen is for a salesman to convince a director that it *could*. Neither the salesman, nor the VP have any understanding of what the job entails, or what the product or the teams need... they just want to hear that KPIs will be hit, and they'll make their bonus. If it all falls apart in Q3, that's fine, as long as they maximize net until the wheels fall off.

Both are cases of the VC-backed leadership telling the experts in the field that "this is the future".

I am graduating with my Bachelors in Computer Science in the summer this year. I think for our field it wont be this job destroying thing. Its a tool. You dont see carpenters, roofers, etc. out of a job because they decided to use a hammer instead of a rock. Hell even the nail gun did not put people out of jobs. It made the current jobs to be done quicker.

Now I am just only starting out. I work for my city as a programmer. That is just what I think will happen. I dont have the experience to see how it could turn out in all avenues.

 

[abactuon]

Nvidia will follow Intel's path.
I thought it was all a setup, but they're just *****s.

 

[BadThad]

Great follow-up Ryan! Haters be haters but this is a pretty significant advancement IMO.

 

[saladbarsmash]

So people can barely afford 1 GPU in any price bracket and now we need to start buying two just so all our games can look like they are run through Instagram filters? Upscaling is a software solution to a hardware problem. Now we need to buy more hardware instead of developers better coding their games? We needed better hardware because the software sucked, so we're coming full circle? We now need extra hardware to run a software solution because our hardware isn't fast enough to rune a developers code natively?

People are going to start dropping $10k on 5090s just to run DLSS5. Sure, SOME people will, but 80% of people in steam surveys have 60 class cards or lower and consoles typically target the 60 class GPU when designing hardware.

They said they'll have it down to 1 card once it's been optimized and this is probably meant for the 6k series, just that it will be out by the end of the year.

 

[Strawman]

Shrout has form for not declaring conflicts of interests, not declaring that he and others at PCper were working for Intel as 'private consultants' at the same time as running a tech review site that was reviewing those products, a tech site that just happend to heavily favour Intel/Nvidia in its output.
Some basic due diligence, would show that. Guess people have short memories.

And we can't have a pro intel reviewer, no, only pro amd are allowed. Haha, amd drones...

 

[innatelyacidic]

Sorry, but all of those pictures, both faces and background objects, look they have been run through an uncanny valley filter. That's an issue with trying to make things look more realistic or natural - the more realistic things are, the more they look off and well wrong if the small details are off. Less realistic artwork ends up looking better. Getting out of the uncanny valley on the other side using AI stuff is going to take a lot of time an effort.

Congratulations or regurgitating the hive mind line. You don't even know the definition of uncanny valley. An inanimate object cannot give you the feeling that it's inhuman. It's an inanimate object bud. Forget that this is a game.

 

[innatelyacidic]

They said they'll have it down to 1 card once it's been optimized and this is probably meant for the 6k series, just that it will be out by the end of the year.

They aren't releasing the 60 series this year, so how would that timing work exactly?

 

[innatelyacidic]

It looks like a filter, Act like a filter, walk like a filter, needs 2 GPUS to apply the filter to every frame becasue its a filter, then you cannot tell me is not a Filter.

Technically everything you see is a filter. Nothing you see is as it appears in reality. It's your minds interpretation of the data your eyes are feeding it.

 

[innatelyacidic]

DLSS 5 have cached lot of attention.
At least the mass will see it live (implemented) in the news in real time.

So, you can't afford new GPU to see it in your PC setup?
No problem, go buy (still) new cheap big DumbTV!
You are again on the roof with the tide!

/s

This is the endgame. I just realized it. They're already trying to phase out owning GPU, this is just another step in that direction. I bet it will only be available using Geforce Now.

 

[Endymio]

Shrout has form for not declaring conflicts of interests, not declaring that he and others at PCper were working for Intel as 'private consultants' at the same time as running a tech review site that was reviewing those products, a tech site that just happend to heavily favour Intel/Nvidia in its output.

PC Perspective favored the products that deserved it. You failed to note that Shrout Consulting was hired by Intel to privately test one Optane drive only -- and were also hired by AMD and several other firms to perform similar testing. It's also illustrative to note that, when Pcper later reviewed the 900p, its performance figures were in line with other reviews. So put down the torch and pitchfork ... there'll be no storming the castle today.

 

[Nameless Gamer]

Looking at the pictures, and I can honestly say, there is NOT a significant difference in how everything looks, except for the faces.

The color is slightly different, but other than that, there's no noticeable changes in the graphics. If color's what your worried about (Making it more vibrant or whatever), that's something that can be changed directly on the models themselves.

I personally don't like AI, and I know most people don't like it either. While I believe AI (nongenerative AI) definitely has great uses as a tool in a lot of sectors (Like workplace safety, keeping machines or systems regulated, etc), when it comes to Creative spaces, AI should never be used.

Call me stubborn or a relic, but I'd rather have an uncanny character made by a human than a perfect realistic person achieved with AI, because one of them FEELS more human.

 

[Hecate91]

And we can't have a pro intel reviewer, no, only pro amd are allowed. Haha, amd drones...

It's called a conflict of interest no matter who is paying a reviewer behind closed doors, so to speak.
Shrout was caught and left PCper, that site faded into irrelevance and so should have Shrout's reputation, and it's obvious people who attended the event are being compensated in some way, of course they're giving PR praise.
The amount of corruption that gets defended in the tech industry is appalling and disappointing.
Intel marketeers here need to try harder, lol.

 

[Neatfeatguy]

Looks like an AI filter designed to make everything look like it is perfectly lit under ideal studio lighting to me. But what do I know?

It looks like it takes the image, restructures it to make it look more like how it was "taught" what people and photo realistic environments should look like. Sometimes it makes the eyes a little rounder, the lips a bit fuller.....but every time it looks unnatural in the game and it makes everything way too bright.

Stop trying to make a game look "real". Make a game fun. I don't care how many reflections a pond has and if I can see my avatar's face in it. If the game plays like crap, runs like crap and isn't entertaining, no amount of "realism" will make the game better.

 

[obsidian76]

PC Perspective favored the products that deserved it. You failed to note that Shrout Consulting was hired by Intel to privately test one Optane drive only -- and were also hired by AMD and several other firms to perform similar testing. It's also illustrative to note that, when Pcper later reviewed the 900p, its performance figures were in line with other reviews. So put down the torch and pitchfork ... there'll be no storming the castle today.

The problem was they didnt declare the conflict of interests.

 

[obsidian76]

And we can't have a pro intel reviewer, no, only pro amd are allowed. Haha, amd drones...

They had undeclared business interests with Amd and others. Even the perception of a conflict of interest should be recognised and declared. TBH thats why Shrout popping up to defend Nvidia raises hackles for those of us who remember his past behaviour and value journalistic integrity even in the tech space. Clearly you do not.

 

[Y2JB47]

The vast majority of people complaining are jumping on the bandwagon to hate on AI for the sake of it.

The images are a clear improvement if you are objective.

 

[obsidian76]

The vast majority of people complaining are jumping on the bandwagon to hate on AI for the sake of it.

The images are a clear improvement if you are objective.

Matters of individual artistic taste are subjective by nature. Even if one thinks this is an improvement, thats not objective is subjective.

 

[Gee Key]

I think ai is here beside the point. People arent upset with new features. They are upset knowing that the pricing will be over the top just as obviously hardware needed to run it. And that's just about everything they keep getting from Nvidia (and amd is on the wagon) for the last 5 years or more, and as they are witnessing all this just killing pc gaming.

 

[Nnyan]

Are you kidding me? A point for this is that you can go back to SLI? Most people are struggling to update one GPU not find a need to get two.

 

[JaredTheDragon]

I think ai is here beside the point. People arent upset with new features. They are upset knowing that the pricing will be over the top just as obviously hardware needed to run it. And that's just about everything they keep getting from Nvidia (and amd is on the wagon) for the last 5 years or more, and as they are witnessing all this just killing pc gaming.

Literally everyone with eyes thinks this "feature" is trash. It's literally a filter, and the write is a paid shill. I've been in 3D graphics and rendering since 1988 and this stuff is absolute garbage, across the board.

There's no such thing as "AI" yet, and all of this slop proves the point even more.

 

[WhiteLeaff]

That’s not photorealistic at all. What’s wrong with the eyes of anyone who says it is?

This is a disaster as far as analysis and journalism go, he even managed to spin the fact that it needed 2 x 5090s into something positive, lol lol

 

[Axiarus]

Gross

 

[BogdanR]

Nvidia stopped being a graphics company sometime ago, they are an AI company now. They are the ones who have pushed AI forward and singlehandedly feeding/ sustaining the current AI frenzy. It is to be expected that everything is an AI “nail” to them.

 

[Prosercunus]

We realized it wasn't solely a face filter, but a filter nonetheless. Most of the "improved" images look like community texture mods for most games.

 

[Puiu]

I am graduating with my Bachelors in Computer Science in the summer this year. I think for our field it wont be this job destroying thing. Its a tool. You dont see carpenters, roofers, etc. out of a job because they decided to use a hammer instead of a rock. Hell even the nail gun did not put people out of jobs. It made the current jobs to be done quicker.

Now I am just only starting out. I work for my city as a programmer. That is just what I think will happen. I dont have the experience to see how it could turn out in all avenues.

as a programmer with a lot of experience in the market, I'm going to sadly tell you that even if you think the AI as just a tool, it will still replace you or your collage friends. it's unavoidable.

unless new regulations are implemented, the job market will continue to shrink. the trillions of $$$ invested in AI won't be wasted on the feelings of the regular Joe.