Intel might have slipped that Windows 12 is indeed coming next year

[Mark Fuller]

I had zero issues with Vista. Thought it was pretty solid, but then again I didn't jump on the bandwagon and try to hump MS's leg as soon as they released Vista. I started using Vista about 6 months before Windows 7 launched and there were zero issues.

Lots of driver issues at the start of Vista's release, but that falls on the shoulders of MS and their limited release to software developers so they can learn how to make their drivers properly function with the new OS.

Those that say Vista was bad, I guess it just depends on when they adapted to it. As for Win 8 - you couldn't pay me to use that version, not even 8.1. Same with 11 and with 12, if rumors are true and they're trying to build in their stupid "AI" search engine into it, nope, no thanks. You can count me out.

You said you had no issues with Vista. I had a friend who never any issues with Vista either and I had to reformat for him because of a virulent self replicating registry virus that rendered it unusable. It would not reformat to start with because the virus was so virulent that I had to use a program called Killdisk developed by the military to wipe the hard drive clean. But after it was reformatted, it never had any operating system problems and never any driver issues. I have read other reviews in this forum and on Microsoft's website about Vista's bad rep when it was first issued but some people, and I've read a lots of them, swore by Vista. At least the one user I knew used it extensively and never had any problems.

 

[yRaz]

Linux was not developed with gaming in mind. Rather data processing. I is based on a UNIX system that was the first to be used widely in data processing applications like spreadsheets and data bases.

Neither was windows. Gaming wasn't a thing when Linus Torvald made Linux

 

[Puiu]

Neither was windows. Gaming wasn't a thing when Linus Torvald made Linux

Version 1.0 was released in 1994. Doom was already out.

edit: 2004 was just me being on autopilot. meant to write 1994.

 

[Puiu]

faster for what? you can't type fast enough? That hasn't been an issue since literally 95. what basic functionality could you be shilling for windows 12? No one asked for windows 10, then windows 11 rolled around.

If you want efficiency then go to Linux like all the data centers and, god forgive me for saying this, all of nVidias AI garbage runs on. The neural networks that they use to train AI all run on Linux. Why? because it's faster and has less bloat.

Why aren't you on windows 95 now if you didn't ask for windows 10? Clearly we don't need OS updates anymore, right?

 

[Nobina]

For starters, it might not be true. I mean it seems crazy if you think how young win 11 is.
As for subscription, it would make 11 the last windows for a lot of people people, and then something else or pirated windows only.
But I am still optimistic. I mean what if they just optimize is on a very deep level making it much much faster.
What if the next windows runs apps and games much faster. What if new windows allows to make apps that are much more efficient and quicker. And on top of that, what if it just feels smoother and more comfort to use?
The only reason I would pass on that would be subscription. I still cant comprehend how casual users pay for office 365 rather than purchasing a key and going with owned office till they upgrade their laptop or PC.
It is unneeded and pointless.

I thought the same thing when W11 was about to come out. Hope dies last as they say.

 

[Mark Fuller]

Why aren't you on windows 95 now if you didn't ask for windows 10? Clearly we don't need OS updates anymore, right?

Os updates are clearly required to keep up with ever changing malware infection issues and new software releases and to keep up with new hardware developments. The changes like from 10 to 11 reflect this but the core system has been about the same.

 

[mrvco]

So Win12 launches before Win10 support ends? Wow. I'd be pretty freaking annoyed right now if I had went through any trouble and/or expense upgrading to Win11. Not that I expect Win12 to strike a better balance between old and new.

 

[yRaz]

Why aren't you on windows 95 now if you didn't ask for windows 10? Clearly we don't need OS updates anymore, right?

OS updates are necessary for security. If MS had continued to support Windows 7 with security updates then I would be using that, they choose not to. They, instead, wanted an OS that they can use to collect our data

Version 1.0 was released in 2004. Doom was already out.

what? Linux was created in 1991

 

[Mark Fuller]

OS updates are necessary for for security. If MS had continued to support Windows 7 with security updates then I would be using that, they choose not to. They, instead, wanted an OS that they can use to collect our data

Which is another couple of reasons why LINUX continues to be more popular.

 

[sadsteve]

This is the last one for me. Windows 10 was ok, but 11 is a total shitshow. I'm moving to Linux permanently after this one.

Window 8.0 caused me to switch to Linux as my main OS. I do have Windows 11 running in a VM for games that won't work under Linux, TurboTax and Affinity Photo (really dislike Gimp!). Linux has been a pleasure to to use and the switch for me was rather simple. I'd already been using Firefox, Thunderbird, g++ and Libre Office so the switch was pretty painless since these applications are available on both OSes. I'm currently using MX LInux and I recommend it.

 

[TheBigT42]

This is the last one for me. Windows 10 was ok, but 11 is a total shitshow. I'm moving to Linux permanently after this one.

Linux Mint is the easiest I have tried, mainly for it's Driver Manager and desktop Cinnamon is an easy transfer from windows.

 

[yRaz]

Linux Mint is the easiest I have tried, mainly for it's Driver Manager and desktop Cinnamon is an easy transfer from windows.

I've been using various versions of linux for close to 2 decades, I absolutely love Linux Mint. The other distros can be fun for those who like to tinker, but if you want something that "just works" then Mint is the way to go. It works on anything and it's fast. I have a single core laptop from 2009 and for regular applications it runs just as well as my main 7700x rig.

 

[3ogdy]

I had zero issues with Vista. Thought it was pretty solid, but then again I didn't jump on the bandwagon and try to hump MS's leg as soon as they released Vista. I started using Vista about 6 months before Windows 7 launched and there were zero issues.

Lots of driver issues at the start of Vista's release, but that falls on the shoulders of MS and their limited release to software developers so they can learn how to make their drivers properly function with the new OS.

Those that say Vista was bad, I guess it just depends on when they adapted to it. As for Win 8 - you couldn't pay me to use that version, not even 8.1. Same with 11 and with 12, if rumors are true and they're trying to build in their stupid "AI" search engine into it, nope, no thanks. You can count me out.

It's true. Vista only had some issues at first, but SP2 was actually very good. RAM caching only contributed to the overall feeling coming from XP, on which most people had 256 - 512 MB of RAM. To be fair, back in 2007 - 2008 I was already speccing systems with 2GB of DDR2 RAM, although customers were looking a bit strange at the decision. It did pay off, though.

 

[The Eggman]

After a LOT of getting used to it, and a lot more time configuring it, 11 is not too bad. If they were able to RETRO it so that there was at least an option for folks who don't/can't have the latest hardware I'd be happier and so would a LOT of other folks who are saying screw it, I'm getting a Chromebook.

 

[Gastec]

Version 1.0 was released in 2004. Doom was already out.

In March 1994.

 

[bandit8623]

You do realize that CS2 is linux native...right? WTF would you be playing it through proton?


And there is no reason they cant make this anti cheat work with proton. They CHOOSE not to. It's not a technical limitation.

HA.. look at benchmarks. vulkan is getting over 40% less frames.

 

[Puiu]

In March 1994.

Sorry, I meant to write 1994, but 2004 was just me having a brain fart.

 

[Puiu]

OS updates are necessary for security. If MS had continued to support Windows 7 with security updates then I would be using that, they choose not to. They, instead, wanted an OS that they can use to collect our data


what? Linux was created in 1991

yeah, ignore that date, I was supposed to write 1994. 1991 is when version 0.1 came out.

 

[DrkKnight]

Windows as a service will NEVER happen for me, I have tried 11 and it is a complete total sh1t show and don't expect 12 to be any better so I choose to stay with 10 until it's dying breath , then on to Linux.

 

[TheBigT42]

I've been using various versions of linux for close to 2 decades, I absolutely love Linux Mint. The other distros can be fun for those who like to tinker, but if you want something that "just works" then Mint is the way to go. It works on anything and it's fast. I have a single core laptop from 2009 and for regular applications it runs just as well as my main 7700x rig.

I would like them to give more love to the LMDE and drop Ubuntu